Baby Beyonder. Super Power Score and Level. 8: Hulk /w The One Below All. Ahl God Of Superheroes 20. That makes me believe that Beyonder may not be all that he is made out to be. Well seeing how ive been told i need to tone down the Superman stuff. We should really stop putting Beyonder in Threads. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. wanda at full power>Beyonder, Molecule Man Pre retcon. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely stronger than the entire Marvel Multiverse, Phoenix Force is only the sum of all life in the multiverse (although never ever depicted anywhere near this level). We knew this but Galactus is less than a fly to Beyonder, this is after but one show of power from Beyonder. Manhattan's league. Victory by permanent death or erasure. ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder can teleport and undo. on. •beyonder is omnipotent in the beyond realm. There's a difference. PR Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. super strength is not worth much in such a fight. In times where he was not the absolute power in the situation, it was passed off as an M-Body. 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube. 0. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. 13 years ago. 0. #2 Edited By Hulkman123. Instead of dealing with the two out right, the Presence gets help from his agents. Lucifer Morningstar. 1 Answer Sorted by: 9 There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. This is the power level used when referring to PR Beyonder or PR Molecule Man. ImKindaANiceGuy • 3 yr. 7: Old Lord Thanos. Beyonder 39%. The Beyonder might be incredibly powerful (especially in his pre retcon state), but power means nothing to something which predates and transcends things like power. Follow 4533. Jack Kirby never wanted the Tribunal to ever be even threatened and the ultimate authority for a long time as long as he was in the company, so LT being beaten was seen as an insult by some comic fans. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. 5: Molecule Man 6: Lifebringer Galactus. That was the whole point of "Secret Wars II. ago. But you are right about Elder God Demonbane being created just to be all powerful, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is kind of the same he was created to be TOAA of another multiverse outside of the Marvel. normal Round 2. Super Power Score and Level. 7 years ago. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. PR Beyonder curbstomps. deactivated-63c1a72900876. To start it up I am going to post some of classic Beyonder?s. I think pre-retcon Beyonder may take it. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher-. 1000 Tribunals and 1000 Eternitys wouldn't do jack against him. however one could always reduce a given discourse's interpretation of Mxy's power levels by bringing up his lowshowings here and there; in regards to scaling Manhattan to Perpetua, I find this really poor since the latter. 7: Old Lord Thanos. Lucifer Morningstar (with the Demiurgic Dunamis): Lucifer Morningstar traveling to Marvel multiverse towards know more about it and just traveling to events of. Current Beyonder vs New 52 Spectre. Gen. Kuuko273. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. Forum Posts. Even Molecule Man at the height of his powers was almost nothing to Beyonder. People place the cosmic entities on Lucifers level sometimes lmao. canon) Beyonder, because again: "pre-retcon. Omnipotent= One above All (Not celestial) Nigh-Omnipotent= (Pre-recton Beyonder), Living Tribunal, Pre-recton Molecule Man. Pre-Retcon Beyonder v. Sorry. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Sensing that the Beyonder is a power beyond the multiverse itself and is. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Follow 3300. Multi-Eternity. He is the embodiment of the Beyond-realm which is in fact, another multiverse. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. . However, let's remember; PR Beyonder let Dr. I really can't be asked to go. Quantu. 5. Far from Beyonder levels. He. ] Planet Buster Tier: Able to destroy a planet [E. who universe. 5 years ago. And since he gave his power to. Round 1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Pre-Retcon Superman. Beyonder is at a whole new level. Also CAS safe stomps round 4, 7 and probably round 10 as well. This also includes any editing errors, spelling errors, grammar errors etc. In no way, shape, or form you can scale to the whole thing. Beyonder is marvel. Vs. Follow 4132. The result of an. Eru Iluvatar is more like SCP 3812 but. 1. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Nothing can come close to infinite creation and/or destruction. Cosmic Armor Superman is two infinities greater than a multiverse whilst Beyonder is only a million times greater than a Multiverse that does not even expand. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. it would be mostly stalemate. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. 5 years ago. RRPanther • 7 mo. Especially if they all team up on him. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Jul 30, 2018. " No actually there have been 3 different incarnations of the Beyonder with 3 different power levels. When the Beyonder entered Marvel, reality itself ceased to exist. Thanos HOTU has a fraction of the power of the One-Above-All, the most powerful being of both the Marvel and DC Universes. ago. Omnipotent= One above All (Not celestial) Nigh-Omnipotent= (Pre-recton Beyonder), Living Tribunal, Pre-recton Molecule Man. eternityx. 10 years ago. Sort by:Reinhard or Mercurius could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder. At the height of his power, Pre-Retcon Beyonder gave everything that existed a few hours to continue existing before he wiped everything out. the Celestials on occassion were referring to as this strong, which in. Akasha only has 6d universes on itself, that's not omnipotence. There are levels of overpowered. Follow 3000. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. Be careful man, soon the Lucifer fanboys will come out and lecture you about how Lucifer will curbstomp every single fictional being. there are tons of ways to argue. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (Marvel) vs Lucifer Morningstar (DC/Vertigo) Lucifer win because in terms of raw power beyonder win but you have to remember beyonder isnt smart at all. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. Beyonder: Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. trolls can call other people trolls. 4 years. :The mage went to their respective verses o fight 4. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. Mutant Inhuman Beyonder. Wiki Points. That's all there is to it. 4 years ago s1ckb0yBeak and Toad are on the same level as Daredevil,. Round 1 - The Beyonders & Thanos HOTU vs Pre-Retcon BeyonderAnd the Beyonder and the Molecule Man are in fact, two halves of one such Cosmic Cube. not all are the same power level. Endless Mike. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Orphic Zeus. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. ago. Even Scarlet King could just literally fart Pre Retcon Beyonder out of existence. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. We know that there are multiversals, but Pre-Retcon Beyonders kinda man handled LT from what I understood so it's kinda hard to say who would win. The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. 2. Here is my sandbox: Evaluation would be very helpful. Pre-Retcon Beyonder probably is more powerful than current Sky-father Hercules and therefore can/should win. Power-level wise, the Beyonder is so far 'beyond' the Anti-Monitor it's not even funny. Forum Posts. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). So, a powerful being's place is usually on the outside as a supporter or obstacle of your central characters. That is PRE-retcon Beyonder. The higher levels are kinda featless in Doctor Who. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him. . New Comics. #8 Edited By Sungsam. The level is set when. This was a level of power on par with the Universe itself. and also white phoenix cant beat toaa but im sure she can eaither salemate prerecton beyonder r at least beat him through. 8 years ago. By the way what is Hajun's power i mean kkk is has no official English translation and baste on what i know from all the translated content his basically Lung from worm and can escalate his power with the. 12984. Power Grid [27] Intelligence@kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. He stomps. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder can use his powers to instantly know his enemy's thoughts, feelings, and powers and counter them. Beyonder 16. Molecule Man, who at the time of the Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the second most powerful being EVER, let off a blast, point blank in the Beyonder's face that was said to be powerful enough to destroy THOUSANDS of dimensions, it was shrugged off by the Beyonder. The. The Beyonder can't do anything to this level of OP shit. who’s full power. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. 6 years ago. so that places a limit on his power. R1 - Beyonder godstomps effortlessly, he's millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse, which is infinitely bigger than Dragon Ball's multiverse. #14. Of course, Sentry beat MM when he was at. Name: The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who Is All, "Frank," Kosmos, The Maker, The Broken One. On the other hand, though, hasn't Doctor Doom. who universe. Making the Molecule Man a bomb created by said Beyonders for each reality. FollowHe wielded the Dunamis Demiurgos which is the literal power of God. The more you use dimensional levels as a way to mean the character wins only makes them lose because the higher the dimensional level doesnt mean anything lmao. The Beyonder stomps. During most of the trial, he was a silent witness, holding Protege, the Beyonder, and the Guardians of the Galaxy, while the Tribunal, Eternity, and the Hawk God argued the case. Lucifer deletes LT, PRB deletes Lucy then recreates LT. who’s full power. Created to be the ultimate thing ever, the Beyonder fulfilled his objective too well. Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. Cubey. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. Jan 29, 2017. Beyonder snorts him. Origin: Marvel Comics. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Wiki Points. 0. HeartLesS 25 d . Is Pre-Retcon Beyonder more powerful than The One Above All? 57 results 1 2 #1 Edited By firewrkninja on TOAA's page it says that he is the most powerful being in the marvel multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the literal principle and the executioner at the same time yes their was scans of Beyonder TANKing universe busting and faster than light attacks he even was able to. That said, Beyonder loses anyway otherwise and badly (really badly) mainly because Lucifer crushes the BeyondRealm and can survive all of Beyonder's max feat and max implied level of power. Super Power Score and Level. when people talk about pre-retcon marvel like pre-retcon beyonder or pre-retcon molecule man what storyline was the retcon. The only level higher than fiction is the reality, so unless you think 3812 is about to come into the real world he literally can't ascend above a comic character. Round 2: White Phoenix of the Crown: Beyonder stomps. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Beyonder has way more hax, the Glory is literally non-sentient, and Beyonder has an extreme AP advantage, seeing as the Glory is only possibly baseline High 1-B, and Beyonder is well over 10,000,000 times more powerful than almost every High 1-B in Marvel. Reality merely became whatever the Beyonder's imagination was. 140. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. just solved the Dazzler half of. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. Follow. He doesn't actually receive any extra power from the Presence. NOTHING. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. Stronger than scp-3125 who in turn can exist in noosphere, noosphere contains and surpass narrative within scp which in turn even one narrative in surpass uncountable infinite narratives and oh yeah by the way this is THE SMALLEST narrative and it’s already pre retcon beyonder in turn there are infinite narratives which each surpass each other in. And yeah he stomps. Mr. Forum Posts. He is. 8. Nejfelt • 2 yr. This is not a stomp either way. Aka and Lorkhan influenced and limited all Et'Ada with their power. 13 years ago Pre-Retcon Beyonder has been stated to be only millions of times more powerful than a multiverse, which means he has a level of dimensionality that's in the millions or is otherwise infinite. Pre-retcon beyonder is equal toaa in power. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. Also the Beyonder is whatever he decides to be. In that case, E would be 10. The Beyonder is a recurring antagonist of Avengers Assemble. Only way Parayla wins is of. Super Power Score and Level. Shaper of Worlds and every other variation of the Cosmic Cubes are consistently stated in handbooks to have that level of power. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. I will need to have cited evidence for. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. With this said, Secret wars 2 did but all that massively multiversal mumbo-jumbo and Living Tribunal being less than a. Pre retcon Beyonder is not a part of Thanos's multiverse, and would thus be unaffected by the HotU. Poll Eru Iluvatar vs Beyonder ( Pre Retcon ) (41 votes) Eru 61%. That concludes beyonder feats now what I conclude from this is:-. K. . and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. . Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. 9 years ago. The Darkest Knight (Man who laughs) vs The Beyonder. He got trick by low level being while Lucifer is the smartest and trickiest being so i say lucifer morningstar win this. Stage 4 - Retcon 1 - Dumb, Dumb, Dumb - It is reveled that everything in secret wars I & II was mearly an illusion. Momentarily Matches Beyonder in a battle that causes Multiversal TremorsBut my vote for Pre-Retcon Beyonder just cause marvel writers stated he been TOAA in his own multiverse and all combine power in all multiverse in a millions times lower than him . @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. Didn't Hom scarlet witch got switched to planet level twice so she isn't. -. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes. MCU God of stories Loki vs Pre Retcon Beyonder. s The whole Kryptonian , Earth heroes, Justic League , Avengers, Teen Titan, Olympiancan Pre-Retcon Beyonder take all of those SPeople already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. And the modern US military can easily beat Homelander, but a few thousand guys are dying. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. Otherwise there is. Attack Potency: Varies (His power level varies heavily depending on his mental and emotional state, as well as the mental blocks he places upon his own mind - without even knowing) from Human level (Is an ordinary human sometimes, but his statistics tend to go up and down) to High Hyperverse level (Comparable to the Beyonder, being, depending. In terms of power levels, this list is pretty accurate though. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. Pre retcon, the Beyonder was the most powerful being in the Marvel universe. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Gan & Crimson King VS Pre Retcon Beyonder. g: Master Roshi, Donkey Kong. #2. Nightmare All Dreams 24. #1 Omega48. 3. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Welcome to earth. -Everything in bleach. They do things that are abtract and non-sensical, but quite frankly so does Beyonder so it's a coin flip imo. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. The Life-force is powerful than The Beyonder's power. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. Doom get the drop on him and take his power. When Peter had Beyonder's powers for just a. Was mind-haxxed/poisoned by Multiversal knowledge, despite being more than thousands of degrees more powerful than such things. I think he wins this. Follow 15136. Current Beyonder looks to be back to his Pre Retcon level. 10 years ago. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely. Forum Posts. And just think, he was HOLDING BACK THE ENTIRE TIME, just so that he could only FIT INTO the Marvel multiverse without IMMEDIATELY DESTROYING IT due to his massive power. Business, Economics, and Finance. 111 results. From a mathematical perspective, Me as a normal human being is literally closer to Azathoth and dr who power level than they are to 3812 . The Beyonder is no longer able to destroy the Living Tribunal. Mad Jim Jaspers. The more you use dimensional levels as a way to mean the character wins only makes them lose because the higher the dimensional level doesnt mean anything lmao. Holo-Man • 3 yr. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 2. You do not scale a boundless entity from its cosmology. Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. The Soruce(DC) 5. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. He is superior to LT, but to what degree is unknown. #36. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Then we will talk. This would eventually change with later stories, as writers would rewrite and retcon the Beyonder's character and origin, to decrease his power and importance in the Cosmic Hierarchy. But it wont be easy by no means. Withstanding attacks that can atomize dimensions is a pretty crazy feat. g: Hulk (strongest variant), Sargeras. :The mage got a rest time of 1 day between the fights. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Meanwhile, the Presence is said to have been created by external forces and is. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Sensing that the Beyonder is a power beyond the multiverse. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. Fighting place: Dr. Mxyzptlk. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Contributor. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. This is the power level used when referring to PR Beyonder or PR Molecule Man. Prep isn’t an instant win and Rick got bodied by some below wall level guys even with prep. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. Marvel is hilariously inconsistent with power levels, if we took one off feats and off hand statements we would have thinks like beyond dimensional. ago. Round 2 : Post Retcon. Reality merely became whatever the Beyonder's imagination was. He got trick by low level being while Lucifer is the smartest and trickiest being so i say lucifer morningstar win this. Followers. Everybody bows down to Pre-retcon Beyonder. After discovering and observing our universe (616) through the pinhole, Beyonder destroys an entire galaxy and creates the battle world from it to act as a battlefield for the secret war between the superheroes and villains - Scan 1 and Scan 2. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. Every hero on earth was totally useless against a flawed celestial patched together from bits and pieces of long dead ones. Black Celestial Galactus (not sure). Pre-Recon Beyonder can reverse forbidden magic instantly. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. Ima go with byonder. Numidium 2. FIN7 • 5 July 2018 • User blog:FIN7. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A. We can only scale from their established power levels as they were in 1985, not after the retcon took place. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. 4 years agoBeyonder (of Earth-616) is a cosmic cube with a god-like being who started and oversaw the Secret Wars. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. When the Beyonder entered Marvel, reality itself ceased to exist. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. Something like "Weakest DC Villain that could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder" would be fine though. Based on Owen's estimation of Beyonder's power levels. 967. ImKindaANiceGuy • 3 yr. Follow 379. Beyonder Is so powerful he gets bored even with The most over powered entities. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. Text under CC-BY-SA licenseThe Beyonder is the physical manifestation of the beyond realm itself, the beyond realm is superior/transcendent over the marvel Multiverse in it's entirety, is beyond all planes of. 1. High Hyperverse level (The Beyonder is an infinite dimensional being. Powers are basically the same thing. CitizenSentry. In Avengers Beyond #1, the Beyonder race was revealed to be created by Cal-Horra (clarified to be a creation of the Celestials in issues #4 – 5) and their power originated. Beyonder displayed far superior implicated power than the. Pre Retcon Beyonder sees an. 0. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. ".